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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#FFFBCE'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Assuming the preferred title for the contents is identical with that for the physical item, e.g., </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>British Library. Manuscript. Arundel 384</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>, would the first go in a 110 field and the second go in a 710, or does the 110 eliminate the need for a 710?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> JR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay Rovner, PhD<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Manuscript Bibliographer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>5501 Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>3080 Broadway<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>New York City, New York 10027<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>(212) 678-8045<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2014 6:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] assorted works by several authors<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Jay,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>There is some confusion in the rule that you are citing. What RDA is talking about is how to construct a preferred title (authorized form) for a manuscript that does not have its own name. In this case the "devised title" would go in a 110, 610, or 710. The rules for preferred titles are found in chapter 6 and the particular rule that you are citing is creating a preferred title for a manuscript is 6.2.2.7c. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The rules for creating a devised title for a manifestation or that goes in a 245 are found in 2.3.1.̀̀10 and 2.3.2.11. So the title that you have created for the 245 is perfectly adequate. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best, Heidi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Jay Rovner" <<a href="mailto:jarovner@jtsa.edu">jarovner@jtsa.edu</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:29:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Heb-NACO] assorted works by several authors<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In cataloging a ms. containing works on several topics by various authors, I got to the following rule for “devising” a title.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>c) a devised title. Use the authorized access point representing the repository (see <a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp11&target=rda11-5160#rda11-5160" target="_blank"><b><span style='color:#21368B;text-decoration:none'>11.13.1<img border=0 width=31 height=13 id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image001.png@01CF1045.C55E8E90" alt="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png"></span></b></a>) followed by <i>Manuscript</i>. Add the repository’s designation for the manuscript or manuscript group. If the manuscript is a single item within a collection, add the foliation, if known.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#FFFBCE'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:#5A595A'>EXAMPLE</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#FFFBCE'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>British Library. Manuscript. Arundel 384</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#FFFBCE'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Yale University. Music Library. Manuscript. LM 4708</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#FFFBCE'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Herzog August Bibliothek. Manuscript. Helmstedt 628, folio 185–192</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Do those examples represent the contents of a 245 field? If so, does that matter all go into subfield a even with the periods? If not, and the examples actually represent Corporate body-ms. added entries, where does one find guidance for a 245 entry?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> JR</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay Rovner, PhD</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Manuscript Bibliographer</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>5501 Library</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>3080 Broadway</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>New York City, New York 10027</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>(212) 678-8045</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jarovner=jtsa.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces+jarovner=jtsa.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jarovner=jtsa.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jarovner=jtsa.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Fwd: three parts of a work</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Jay, </b></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>The instructions in RDA are a bit confusing. RDA 6.23.10.3 tells us: </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Selections from the Talmud </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>If the resource being described consists of selections, use the preferred title for the Talmud, followed by the term Selections. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>EXAMPLE</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud. Selections</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Resource described: The Babylonian Talmud in selection / edited and translated from the original Hebrew and Aramaic by Leo Auerbach </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud Yerushalmi. Selections</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Resource described: Der Jerusalemer Talmud : sieben ausgewälte Kapitel / übersetzt, kommentiert und eingeleitet von Hans-Jürgen Becker </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>This is different than guidelines for selections from the Bible (RDA 6.23.2.9.7) where we are instructed to:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>“For other selections (including miscellaneous extracts) use the most specific title that is appropriate for the selections, followed by the term Selections.Record the specific title for the part or parts by applying these instructions, as applicable.”</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>However, if we did not have that instruction we would handle your work in hand in a different way:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Using your devised title as the title proper, we would refer to the second part of RDA 6.2.2.9 and the accompanying LC-PCC PS.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>RDA 6.2.2.9 (2<sup>nd</sup> part) </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> Unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts. When identifying two or more unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts of a work, record the preferred title for each of the parts. Apply the instructions at <a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2455#rda6-2455" target="_blank">6.2.2.9.1</a>.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>EXAMPLE</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Purgatorio </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for a part of Dante Alighieri’s Divina commedia in a compilation also comprising the part Paradiso </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Paradiso </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for a part of Dante Alighieri’s Divina commedia in a compilation also comprising the part Purgatorio </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Book 1 </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for a part of Homer’s Iliad in a compilation also comprising book 6</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Book 6 </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for a part of Homer’s Iliad in a compilation also comprising book 1 </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Alternative </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>When identifying two or more unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts of a work, identify the parts collectively. Record the conventional collective title Selections as the preferred title for the parts. Apply this instruction instead of or in addition to recording the preferred title for each of the parts.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>EXAMPLE</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Selections </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for the parts of the work in a compilation comprising books 1 and 6 of Homer’s Iliad </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Selections </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Preferred title for the parts of the work in a compilation comprising four episodes of the television program The Simpsons originally broadcast between 1990 and 2001</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>The LC-PCC PS provides guidelines for LC catalogers telling them to implement the Alternative. Thus in your case if you were an LC cataloger you would be required to create the preferred heading: </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud Yerushalmi. Moed, Selections. This heading would go in a 130 field.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>and have the option of making 1, 2 or 3 added access points (730 field) for each of the individual, aka, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud Yerushalmi. Sukkah. Selectdions</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud Yerushalmi. Rosh ha-Shanah Selections</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Talmud Yerushalmi. Moed. Selections</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am not satisfied with the current RDA treatment of selections from the Talmud. My strong preference is that the rule be reexamined and reworded so that it allows for more specificity in identifying various parts of the Talmud. I would like to hear the thoughts of my colleagues. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you , Heidi</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Jay Rovner" <<a href="mailto:jarovner@jtsa.edu" target="_blank">jarovner@jtsa.edu</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 7, 2014 12:53:23 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heb-NACO] three parts of a work</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am cataloging a manuscript for which I devised the following title. <i>Portions of tractates Sukkah, Rosh ha-shanah and Yoma from a Yemenite Talmud codex.</i></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Perhaps the “different places” you allude to would affect how i choose to word the title?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> JR</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay Rovner, PhD</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Manuscript Bibliographer</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>5501 Library</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>3080 Broadway</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>New York City, New York 10027</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>(212) 678-8045</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi G Lerner<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] three parts of a work</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>HI Jay,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This situation is addressed in RDA in several different places, depending on the title proper of the work and how the contents are presented. If you have a specific resource that you are working on could you please describe it or provide a surrogate of the title page and anything else that might be relevant?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks, Heidi </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Jay Rovner" <<a href="mailto:jarovner@jtsa.edu" target="_blank">jarovner@jtsa.edu</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:05:21 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Heb-NACO] three parts of a work</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Is the rule of three relevant in RDA as it was in AACR2? I mean, if a work contains several Talmudic tractates from seder Moed, one would assign a uniform title: Talmud. Moed. Selections. But if a work consists of three tractates from Moed, would each one get its own separate u.t., with the first tractate getting the 130, as with AACR2; or, must the 130 field reflect the entirety of the contents, i.e., Talmud. Moed. Selections.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>If so, would each of the three tractate get its own 730?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> JR</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Jay Rovner, PhD</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Manuscript Bibliographer</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>5501 Library</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>3080 Broadway</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>New York City, New York 10027</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>(212) 678-8045</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco" target="_blank">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco" target="_blank">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>