<html><body><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Uri,<br></div><div>We use [publisher not identified] in both romanized and Hebrew script fields. RDA 1.4 tell us which following elements to record in the language and script in which they appear on the sources from which they are taken. It then goes on to tell us "Record all other elements (including notes) in a language and script, or languages and scripts, preferred by the agency creating the data.".Generally, most North American libraries and all PCC libraries use English as the preferred language.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best, Heidi<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Uri Kolodney" <kolodney@austin.utexas.edu><br><b>To: </b>"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:57:35 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified<br><div><br></div><style><!--
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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Could someone please help me clarify the correct form of the sub-field b in 264 in RDA when there is no publisher?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I see different versions and managed to get confused.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I know it should be [publisher not identified], but what do I put in the transliterated field? The same wording in English? Or maybe the good old “s.n.” or maybe “motsi la-or eno mezuheh” ? </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: #1f497d;">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Uri</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; 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font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> heb-naco-bounces+kolodney=austin.utexas.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+kolodney=austin.utexas.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dascheide@gmail.com<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:08 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br> <b>Cc:</b> heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Keter Aram Tsoveh</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Aleppo codex<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br> On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Judith Zupnick <<a href="mailto:judiezup@msn.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:judiezup@msn.com">judiezup@msn.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">What/who is the Keter Aram Tsoveh? And should it be capitalized (in the Romanization} as follows? :<br> <br> " 'al pi ha-mesorah Keter Aram Tsoveh"<br> <br> Thanks!</p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br> Heb-naco mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br> <a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p></div></blockquote></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br>Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br>https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>