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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well, there isn't much guess-work
      involved in this case, is there?  And yes, 'ai' for names like
      Weiss is appropriate since we're approximating a patah.  <br>
      <br>
      Ohh, times like these make me realize how much we miss Joan... <span
        class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
      <br>
      On 10/21/2013 1:32 PM, Rachel Simon wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            don’t mind using commonsense, but the way Joan & co.
            used to explain these Romanization issues was that one
            shouldn’t try to guess the way a word sound, but Romanize
            based on the combination of letters. In any case “ai” also
            appears in names like “Vais” = Weiss.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">rachel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Jasmin Nof [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu">mailto:jnof@upenn.edu</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 1:21 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; Rachel
                Simon<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of <span
                  dir="RTL" lang="HE">קוקטייל</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">No, the "rules" call for Ledi; see the
            romanization chart: a tsere preceding the yod is 'e'. 
            Granted,
            <span dir="RTL" lang="HE">ליידי</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span
              dir="LTR"></span> doesn't appears in ES, but the sound
            we're trying to approximate is that of a tsere.  Romanizing
            it as 'ai' implies that it rhymes with "lie".<br>
            <br>
            On 10/21/2013 12:11 PM, Rachel Simon wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              just came across a similar case, this time with the
              problematic Romanization in the first word of the title,
              cataloged by LC:
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span dir="RTL"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
              lang="HE">הליידי של העיר הלבנה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
                dir="LTR"></span>  =  ha-Ledi shel ha-ʻir ha-levanah</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don’t
              the “rules” call for “Laidi”?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rachel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+rsimon=princeton.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces+rsimon=princeton.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+rsimon=princeton.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces+rsimon=princeton.edu@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manuel Frau-Cortes<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 11:46 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of <span
                    dir="RTL" lang="HE">קוקטייל</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              do agree with Mr. Talbot. This is a good solution if we
              keep in mind the end user and discoverability.
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rules
              are rules, but I kind of hate it when rules make
              impossible for people to find things in the catalog! Total
              “deramah” /
            </span><span dir="RTL"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
              lang="HE">דרמה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
              lang="CA"><span dir="LTR"></span>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>Neil M.
              Frau-Cortes</b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hebraica
              Cataloger</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">McKeldin Library</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">University
              of Maryland<br>
              College Park, MD 20742<br>
              Phone (301) 405-9337</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="nfrau@umd.edu">nfrau@umd.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
              [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M. TALBOTT<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 11:34 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of <span
                dir="RTL" lang="HE">קוקטייל</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Folks:<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The way I would habve approached the
              data<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">24510 [vernacular double yud form from
              tp]<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">24510 Drai matini kotail<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">2463  [vernacular single yud form from
              ESh<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">2463  Drai martini koktel<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">The reason why this is causing so much
              trouble is that in our romanization scheme, double yud
              represents either "ai," the default form, or a XyX where
              the yud has a degesh (I honestly can't think of any
              instances where double yud represent a non-dageshed yud
              hauling a tsere or a segol, but I could be wrong).  So,
              for my money the best way to treat would be to transcribe
              what's on the piece according to usual practice (koktail;
              add a [sic] if you're still using AACR2) and to add the
              ESh form as an add title.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">My opnion is my own, and I defer to
              Those Who Know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Bob<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Jasmin
              Nof <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu" target="_blank">jnof@upenn.edu</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">So in other words, I ought to add a
                  24633 for <span dir="RTL" lang="HE">
                    קוקטיל</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>?<br>
                  <br>
                  On 10/21/2013 8:14 AM, Elhanan Adler wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fyi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Standard
                      Israeli practice today is to add 24633s for title
                      in alternate ketiv since, for example the reader
                      usually has no idea if the dictionary he is
                      looking for is titled</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                      dir="RTL"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                      lang="HE">מלון</span><span dir="RTL"
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="HE">
                    </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">or
                    </span><span dir="RTL"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                      lang="HE">מילון</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        Adler
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                          href="mailto:elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il"
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                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2013 10:54 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Heidi G Lerner; Jasmin Nof<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of
                          <span dir="RTL" lang="HE">קוקטייל</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">ok,
                      so i just fixed the 245 to koktel (with
                      appropriate diacritics) and deleted the extraneous
                      246.  thanks for your prompt response!<br>
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                      On 10/18/2013 3:45 PM, Heidi G Lerner wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Oops,
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                            I read the e-mail too oquickly about the
                            tsere. I was thinking that it appeared on
                            the resource.
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">No, to the
                            best of my knowledge incorrect romanizations
                            should not be as added in 246s. The LC-PCC
                            PS for 2.3.6.3 offers guidelines and best
                            practices for making variant titles for
                            permutations related to the title proper.
                            There is no discussion onrecording variant
                            or incorrect transliterations (unless found
                            somewhere on the resource). Maher discusses
                            alternative romanizations in Hebraica
                            Cataloging but only in regards to providing
                            alternative romanizations as references to
                            Hebraica names.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <pre>Bob Talbott<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Hebraica Cataloger<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>UC Berkeley<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>250 Moffitt<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Berkeley, CA 94720<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>We're happy as fish,<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>as gorgeous as geese,<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>and wonderfully clean in the morning.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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