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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Heidi, for going the extra mile. Here's my take on the record:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=676 height=421 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CE0B67.0BE58010"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As Heidi says, this solution treats the title as a leaves-of-grass ("title by which the work has become known"), which is why we don't have to use a conventional collective uniform title "Works. Selections" as we would have if we were cataloging the first edition under RDA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The 2nd 246, the 2nd 700 1- and the 2nd 700 12 are all optional, but we certainly wouldn't want to omit at least the last one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I DON'T think it's legal to put "Arabic," the original language, in the first 700 12--I think the fact that the original language is Arabic is apparent from the rest of the description.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Heidi G Lerner [mailto:lerner@stanford.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Biella, Joan<br><b>Cc:</b> Robert Talbott; hebnaco<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: hiburim?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I would take a different approach. Assuming that the three essays contained have been issued together in earlier editions I would invoke RDA 6.2.2.10.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=rda6-2599><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Recording<span class=special-letter> </span>the Preferred Title for a Compilation of Works of One Person, Family, or Corporate Body<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=rda6-2600><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If a compilation of works is known by a title that is used in resources embodying that compilation or in reference sources, apply the instructions at <a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2060#rda6-2060">6.2.2.4</a>–<a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2146#rda6-2146" id=rda6-5002>6.2.2.5<span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=31 height=13 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CE0B66.50498BD0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Since the contents were written before 1500 I would then go to 6.2.2.5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id=rda6-2044><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Determine the title to be used as the preferred title for a work created before 1501 from modern reference sources. If the evidence of modern reference sources is inconclusive, use (in this order of preference): <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=rda6-2045><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>a)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=rda6-2046><div id=rda6-2047><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>modern editions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>b)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=rda6-2048><div id=rda6-11229><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>early editions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>c)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=rda6-2049><div id=rda6-11134><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>manuscript copies.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id=rda6-2050><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Since the 1870s the compilation of the three works/essays have been variously issued such under such Hebrew titles as <br><br>1. Sheloshah sifre diḳduḳ (1870)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2. Sheloshah sifre diḳduḳ (1967, reprint of 1870 edition<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>3. Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We don't have an Arabic title for the compilation so I think that we would have to use the Hebrew title. I would recommend using "Sheloshah sifre diḳduḳ."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Because this resource contains 2 expressions I would catalog it in RDA as:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>100 1 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, </span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif";color:black'>ǂ</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>d ca. 945-ca. 1000,|eauthor.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>245 10 Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah ... <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, </span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif";color:black'>ǂ</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>d ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre diḳduk.|lArabic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, </span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif";color:black'>ǂ</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>d ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre diḳduk.|lHebrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We are not required to add the language to the access point for the work in it its original language, but I would recommend doing so here since the preferred title that has been created is not in the language of the original.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The record should also have an access point for the first or predominant work in the compilation as prescribed of LC-PCC PS 25.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A note describing the contents could be useful in this situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have not dealt with a situation quite like this in my RDA cataloging workflow before. So i would be very happy to hear other cataloger's thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Joan Biella" <jbie@loc.gov><br><b>To: </b>"Robert Talbott" <rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu>, "Heidi Lerner" <lerner@stanford.edu>, "hebnaco" <heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:29:56 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: hiburim?<br><br>Looks like "Works" to me. When in doubt, use "Works." I mean, "Works. Selections," usually.<br>Joan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Robert Talbott [mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu] <br>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:08 PM<br>To: Biella, Joan; Heidi Lerner; hebnaco<br>Subject: hiburim?<br><br>Ladies, HEB-NACO denizens:<br><br>Regarding the new list of official collective titles, I have a book in hand with the following title:<br><br>Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ shel R. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah<br><br>my q: hibure = essays? works? something else?<br><br>Thanks in advance<br><br>B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>