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Thanks Ladies.<br>
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Heidi:<br>
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you offer<br>
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<div class="floating_condition">100 1 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd
ca. 945-ca. 1000,|eauthor.</div>
<div class="floating_condition">245 10 Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ
shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam
le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah ... </div>
<div class="floating_condition">700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd
ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre diḳduk.|lArabic.</div>
<div class="floating_condition">700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd
ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre diḳduk.|lHebrew.</div>
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As I understand it, "Sheloshet" is a new work composed of the
original Work/Expression "Dikduke.Arabic" and the Work/Expression
"Dikduke.Hebrew." Since the instruction directs us to use a title
for works created prior to 1500 that reflects authoritative, popular
past usage instead of the title on the t.p., wouldn't the below be
more appropriate?<br>
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<div class="floating_condition">100 1 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd
ca. 945-ca. 1000,|eauthor.<br>
240 10 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah
sifre diḳduk.|lArabic.<br>
</div>
<div class="floating_condition">245 10 Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ
shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam
le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah ... </div>
<div class="floating_condition">700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben David, ǂd
ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre diḳduk.|lHebrew.</div>
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Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/14/2013 11:22 AM, Heidi G Lerner
wrote:<br>
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<p>I would take a different approach. Assuming that the three
essays contained have been issued together in earlier editions
I would invoke RDA 6.2.2.10.</p>
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<div id="rda6-2599" class="title">Recording<span
class="special-letter"> </span>the Preferred Title for a
Compilation of Works of One Person, Family, or Corporate Body</div>
<div id="rda6-2600" class="para">If a compilation of works is
known by a title that is used in resources embodying that
compilation or in reference sources, apply the instructions at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="a rdalink mref"
href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2060#rda6-2060">6.2.2.4</a>–<a
moz-do-not-send="true" id="rda6-5002" class="a rdalink mref"
href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2146#rda6-2146">6.2.2.5<img
moz-do-not-send="true" class="rdalink" alt=""
src="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png"
height="13" width="31"></a>.</div>
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<p>Since the contents were written before 1500 I would then go
to 6.2.2.5.</p>
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<div id="rda6-2044" class="para">Determine the title to be
used as the preferred title for a work created before 1501
from modern reference sources. If the evidence of modern
reference sources is inconclusive, use (in this order of
preference): </div>
<div id="rda6-2045" class="orderedlist list">
<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">a)</div>
<div id="rda6-2046" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda6-2047" class="para">modern editions</div>
</div>
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<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">b)</div>
<div id="rda6-2048" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda6-11229" class="para">early editions</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">c)</div>
<div id="rda6-2049" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda6-11134" class="para">manuscript copies.</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div id="rda6-2050" class="Core Basic sect sect3">
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">Since the 1870s the
compilation of the three works/essays have been variously
issued such under such Hebrew titles as <br>
<br>
1. Sheloshah sifre diḳduḳ (1870)</div>
<div class="floating_condition">2. Sheloshah sifre diḳduḳ
(1967, reprint of 1870 edition</div>
<div class="floating_condition">3. Sheloshet ḥibure
ha-diḳduḳ shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi
uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah </div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">We don't have an Arabic title
for the compilation so I think that we would have to use the
Hebrew title. I would recommend using "Sheloshah sifre
diḳduḳ."</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">Because this resource contains
2 expressions I would catalog it in RDA as:</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">100 1 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben
David, ǂd ca. 945-ca. 1000,|eauthor.</div>
<div class="floating_condition">245 10 Sheloshet ḥibure
ha-diḳduḳ shel r. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi
uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah ... </div>
<div class="floating_condition">
<div class="floating_condition">700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben
David, ǂd ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre
diḳduk.|lArabic.</div>
<div class="floating_condition">700 12 Ḥayyuj, Judah ben
David, ǂd ca. 945-ca. 1000.|tSheloshah sifre
diḳduk.|lHebrew.</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">We are not required to add
the language to the access point for the work in it its
original language, but I would recommend doing so here
since the preferred title that has been created is not in
the language of the original.</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">The record should also have
an access point for the first or predominant work in the
compilation as prescribed of LC-PCC PS 25.1.</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">A note describing the
contents could be useful in this situation.</div>
<div class="floating_condition"> </div>
<div class="floating_condition">I have not dealt with a
situation quite like this in my RDA cataloging workflow
before. So i would be very happy to hear other cataloger's
thoughts.</div>
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FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><b>From: </b>"Joan
Biella" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbie@loc.gov"><jbie@loc.gov></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Robert Talbott"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu"><rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu></a>, "Heidi Lerner"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu"><lerner@stanford.edu></a>, "hebnaco"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu"><heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:29:56 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: hiburim?<br>
<br>
Looks like "Works" to me. When in doubt, use "Works." I
mean, "Works. Selections," usually.<br>
Joan<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Robert Talbott [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu">mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu</a>] <br>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:08 PM<br>
To: Biella, Joan; Heidi Lerner; hebnaco<br>
Subject: hiburim?<br>
<br>
Ladies, HEB-NACO denizens:<br>
<br>
Regarding the new list of official collective titles, I have a
book in hand with the following title:<br>
<br>
Sheloshet ḥibure ha-diḳduḳ shel R. Yehudah Ḥayugʹ
be-meḳoram ha-ʻArvi uba-targumam le-ʻIvrit ḥadashah<br>
<br>
my q: hibure = essays? works? something else?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance<br>
<br>
B<br>
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