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Thank you Heidi.<br>
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I'll definitely take a look at the links.<br>
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Cheers<br>
<br>
B<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2012 1:02 PM, Heidi G Lerner
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I have been doing it as per your "solution 1" since I began
cataloging in RDA. </p>
<p>RDA 2.3.3.2 tells us that we can take a parallel title proper
from any place within the resource and according to ISBD
punctuation it would appear in the same area as the
title/statement of responsibility (RDA appendix D1.1.1). </p>
<p> </p>
<p>RDA has also given us a different treatment for statements of
responsibilities than we had in AACR2:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>AACR2</p>
<p><span class="bold">1.1F1. </span> Transcribe statements of
responsibility appearing prominently in the item in the form
in which they appear there. If a statement of responsibility
is taken from a source other than the chief source of
information, enclose it in square brackets.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>RDA</p>
<p>2.4.2.2</p>
<div class="body prepend-6">
<div id="rda2-4793" class="title">Sources<span
class="special-letter"> </span>of Information</div>
<div id="rda2-4794" class="para">Take statements of
responsibility relating to title proper from the following
sources (in order of preference):</div>
<div id="rda2-202" class="orderedlist list">
<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">a)</div>
<div id="rda2-199" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda2-9754" class="para">the same source as the
title proper (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
id="rda2-4795" class="rdalink mref"
href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp2&target=rda2-3388#rda2-3388"
target="_blank">2.3.2.2</a>) </div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">b)</div>
<div id="rda2-200" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda2-9720" class="para">another source within
the resource itself (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
id="rda2-4796" class="rdalink mref"
href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp2&target=rda2-2839#rda2-2839"
target="_blank">2.2.2<img moz-do-not-send="true"
class="rdalink" alt="" src="#" width="31"
height="13"></a>) </div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="listitem">
<div class="listitem-num span-2 prepend-1 last">c)</div>
<div id="rda2-201" class="listitem-text prepend-3">
<div id="rda2-9641" class="para">one of the other
sources of information specified under <a
moz-do-not-send="true" id="rda2-4797" class="rdalink
mref"
href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp2&target=rda2-2940#rda2-2940"
target="_blank">2.2.4<img moz-do-not-send="true"
class="rdalink" alt="" src="#" width="31"
height="13"></a>. </div>
<div class="para"> </div>
<div class="para">If we were cataloging under AACR2
rules and we had the title proper appearing on
the title page as the chief source of information, and
there was a statement of responsibility on the title
page verso, we would bracket the statement of
responsibility in the "delimiter c" of the MARC 245
field.</div>
<div class="para"> </div>
<div class="para">However under RDA, in the same
situation we would not bracket the statement of
responsibility since it can be taken from anywhere in
the resource being cataloged. </div>
<div class="para"> </div>
<div class="para">So that is how I understand how a
parallel title proper that does not appear in the same
location within a resource as the title proper, should
also be treated. In other words it will appear
unbracketed in the MARC 245 field with an optional 500
supporting note.</div>
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<p> </p>
<p> FYI: there is discussion about parallel<br>
titles (from a British Library revision proposal) going on in
JSC<br>
right now. See:<br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT818_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9.pdf</font></a></span><br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT819_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-LC-response.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-LC-response.pdf</font></a></span><br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT820_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-ALA-response.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-ALA-response.pdf</font></a></span><br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT821_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-ACOC-response.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-ACOC-response.pdf</font></a></span><br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT822_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-CILIP-response.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-CILIP-response.pdf</font></a></span><br>
<span id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT823_com_zimbra_url" class="Object"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-DNB-response.pdf"
target="_blank"><font color="#00008b">http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-BL-9-DNB-response.pdf</font></a></span><br>
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<p> </p>
<p>Thanks, Heidi</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><b>From: </b>"Robert
Talbott" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu"><rtalbott@library.berkeley.edu></a><br>
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:53:19 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Heb-NACO] RDA 2.3.3.3 Parallel title anxiety<br>
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Folks:<br>
<br>
Per RDA 2.3.3.3, which is correct for the following situation?<br>
<br>
T.p. sez: Kir'u li ve-avo : shirim<br>
T.p. verso sez: Call me and I shall come : poems<br>
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solution 1)<br>
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24510Kir'u li ve-avo : $b shirim / $c et cetera<br>
2461 $i Parallel title from title page verso : $a Call me and
I shall <br>
come : $b poems<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
solution 2)<br>
<br>
24510Kir'u li ve-avo : $b shirim = Call me and I shall come :
poems / $c <br>
et cetera<br>
24631Call me and I shall come : $b poems<br>
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I like option 1 as it seems to fit the scheme depicted in the
rule, but <br>
I've seen Hebrew RDA records out there following solution #2
and I'd <br>
like to make sure I'm on the same page as most everyone else.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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