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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I should think the ayin would be vocalized with a kamats, so I agree with Jay.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2012 10:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No, a vav that comes before a letter vocalized with a hataf takes that vocalization. In this case, the ayin of arakhti is vocalized with a hataf-patah, so the vav is vocalized with a patah.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jasmin<br>
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Please pardon typos; sent from my iPod.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Jay Rovner <<a href="mailto:jarovner@jtsa.edu">jarovner@jtsa.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">It would be v</span><span style="font-size:22.0pt;color:#1F497D">e</span><span style="color:#1F497D">-`arakhti, no?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Biella, Joan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jasmin Nof'; <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">The whole phrase "ha-Honen le-Adam Da'at" is capped, because it is a name consisting of a phrase, sort of like "She Who Must Be Obeyed," "Father Time,"
or "Calamity Jane" (AACR2 rule 22.11A). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:[mailto:jnof@upenn.edu]">[mailto:jnof@upenn.edu]</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2012 4:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>; Biella, Joan<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I can answer the second one more easily as it comes from the 'amidah: it's le-adam, not la-adam. (why would adam and da'at be capped?)<br>
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I'll look into the <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ער</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>"<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ח</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>...<br>
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On 9/24/2012 2:26 PM, Biella, Joan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The LCCN is 2011425612 and the title is "Shut Minḥat Avraham."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The statement of responsibility says "ḥibartiṿ ṿa-<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>arakhtiv<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span> be-ḥesed
D. <span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>alai uve-<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>ezrat ha-H<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>onen la-Adam Da<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>at
ani ha-tsa<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>ir <span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">
ʻ</span>er. h<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>. Avraham b.R. Sa<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>id H<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>amami, y. ts. v<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My question: what is
<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>er. h<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>. =
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ער"ח</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>? Somehow "<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>erev rosh h<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>odesh" doesn't fit the context.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Bonus question: should it be ha-Ḥonen la-Adam Da<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>at or ha-H<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">̣</span>onen le-Adam
Da<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">ʻ</span>at?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you for your collective wisdom.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Joan<o:p></o:p></p>
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