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<P>Interestingly enough, the reader at Mekhon Mamre also pronounces it "gavohah".</P>
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<DIV style="FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>From: </B>"Cliff Miller" <clmiller@jtsa.edu><BR><B>To: </B>"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu><BR><B>Cc: </B>"Ray Scheindlin" <rascheindlin@jtsa.edu><BR><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:08:18 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Heb-NACO] question regarding pronunciation of מגבוה<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I beg to differ:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Three consonants can have a PataH genuvah that stands ordinary rules of reading Hebrew on their head:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">PataH under final Het is pronounced before the Het, as in poteaH</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">PataH under final ayin is pronounced before the ayin, as in Yehoshua’</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">PataH under final mapik-hey is pronounced before the hey, as in Gavoah</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No, the dot in this final hey is not a dagesh.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Clifford Miller</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jasmin Nof<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu; Heidi G Lerner<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Heb-NACO] question regarding pronunciation of מגבוה</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>yes, it is pronounced, mi-gavohah<BR><BR>jasmin<BR><BR>On 9/12/2012 12:18 PM, Heidi G Lerner wrote:</P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">מגבוה </SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">appears in Kohelet 12:5. The final "heh" has a dagesh in the source text. If one were chanting this would the "heh" be pronounced or not. I have heard it chanted both ways but I think that the correct way is to pronounce the "heh".</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks, Heidi</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Heidi G. Lerner<BR>Hebraica/Judaica Cataloger<BR>Metadata Development Unit<BR>Stanford University Libraries<BR>Stanford, CA 94305-6004<BR>e-mail: <A href="mailto:lerner@stanford.edu" target=_blank>lerner@stanford.edu</A><BR>ph: 650-725-9953<BR>fax: 650-725-1120<BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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