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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you for checking this, Yossi!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Galron, Joseph<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 03, 2012 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Saudiyah or Saudyah<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>From the Academy of the Hebrew Language<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Joseph Galron-Goldschlaeger <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my Mobile Toy<span class=apple-style-span> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> "=?utf-8?Q?=D7=94=D7=90=D7=A7=D7=93=D7=9E=D7=99=D7=94 =D7=9C=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=95=D7=9F =D7=94=D7=A2=D7=91=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=AA?=" <<a href="mailto:NoReply.haaqademya@cc.huji.ac.il">NoReply.haaqademya@cc.huji.ac.il</a>><br><b>Date:</b> September 3, 2012 9:25:13 AM EDT<br><b>To:</b> <<a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">galron.1@osu.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>[SPAM SpamScore] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>תשובה – ניקוד שם המדינה: סעודיה</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div align=right><table class=MsoNormalTable dir=rtl border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>שלום וברכה,</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>התעתיק מערבית לעברית מתבסס על ההגייה של השם בערבית. אנו משמיטים גם את היידוע שבערבית.</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>לכן בעברית ננקד סַעוּדִיַּה. בכתיב חסר ניקוד: סעודייה.</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>התעתיק לאותיות לטיניות מתבסס על ההגייה הקלסית של השם. לכן: </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>as-Sa'udiyya</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span>.</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>כל הכללים נמצאים כאן:</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://hebrew-academy.huji.ac.il/hahlatot/thetranscription/pages/default.aspx"><span lang=EN-US dir=LTR>http://hebrew-academy.huji.ac.il/hahlatot/thetranscription/pages/default.aspx</span></a></span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ואגב, השם הרשמי של המדינה על פי התקן בישראל הוא ערב הסעודית בלבד.</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>בברכה,</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>דורון יעקב</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>בברכה,</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>דורון יעקב</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>לבירור נוסף באותו עניין אנא ציינו <b>פנייה חוזרת </b>ואת מספר הפנייה. </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>שימו לב! אין להשיב ב"השב" או ב"</span><span dir=LTR style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>reply</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span>" אלא באמצעות הקישור הזה: </span><span dir=LTR style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://hebrew-academy.huji.ac.il/Pages/haveQuestion.aspx"><span lang=EN-US dir=LTR>http://hebrew-academy.huji.ac.il/Pages/haveQuestion.aspx</span></a><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>מילים ומונחים שאישרה האקדמיה ראו באתר מונחי האקדמיה בכתובת: <a href="http://hebrew-terms.huji.ac.il"><span lang=EN-US dir=LTR>http://hebrew-terms.huji.ac.il</span></a><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>המזכירות המדעית </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>האקדמיה ללשון העברית </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>מספר הפנייה: 16228 </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>תוכן הפנייה: </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><b><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ניקוד שם המדינה: סעודיה</span></b><b><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>שלום ערב הסעודית ידועה גם בשמה הערבי "סעודיה". כיצד נבטא (וננקד) את השם "סעודיה"? האם </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sa'udyah</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> או </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sa'udiyah</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> כלומר האם יש חיריק מתחת לאות דלת? כפי שאני מבין בערבית השם הוא </span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sa'udiyah</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> מה צורת ההגיה המקובלת בישראל? תודה רבה וכל טוב יוסי גלרון-גולדשלגר</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>