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For those interested in how I cited the data, I used 5104 Bibl. of
Hebrew Book, ǂc mis. maʻarekhet 000129431. (See ocm19194538.)<br>
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Thanks for all your input, Jasmin<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/21/2012 10:52 PM, Elhanan Adler wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
record number (called the 'Book Number' at the top of the
full display in the current English language interface, or
'mispar ma'arekhet' at the bottom of the full display in the
Hebrew interface) is a 9 digit number with leading zeroes.
In the CDI version it should be the same number, but 7
digits (minus 2 leading zeroes). This is the ID number of
the record in the Aleph BHB database (MARC field 001) and
should remain stable. If and when the data is moved to a
different platform I expect these numbers will at least be
maintained and indexed for reference purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Elhanan
Adler <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Email:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il">elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 21, 2012 7:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Elhanan, thanks for responding. I'm
glad to hear the numbers are the same. Perhaps I've been
looking in the wrong place. Please clarify what number you
think would be best when giving a citation in a bib 510 4_ $c
for Bibl. of Hebrew Book.<br>
<br>
Jasmin<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/18/2012 11:12 AM, Elhanan Adler wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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all</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
numbers are the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Adler </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Walfish<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
records</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA">Neither am I. I suspect not. But you’d have to
ask someone at NLI.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA">Barry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 9:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
records</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Do record numbers in
the NLI match the number in the BHB? I'm not sure.<br>
<br>
Please pardon typos; sent from my iPod.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-CA"><br>
On May 17, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Barry Walfish <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA">In the NLI version there is a system
number at the end of each record, which should be
unique. I would cite BHB in addition to other sources
such as Vinograd and Friedberg. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]">[mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi Galron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 6:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
records</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">I used BHB several times in the past and
I believe I gave the record number (This was before
the move to the new platform). Today I am not sure
that this number is valid anymore.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Yossi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-CA"><br clear="all">
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger<br>
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies Library<br>
355A Thompson Memorial Library<br>
The Ohio State University Libraries <br>
1858 Neil Ave. Mall<br>
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA<br>
E-Mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/">http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/</a><br>
Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:<br>
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href="http://hebrewlit.notlong.com">http://hebrewlit.notlong.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM,
Jasmin Nof <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu">jnof@upenn.edu</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Hello dear colleagues,<br>
<br>
I'm starting to catalog rare books and see that it
is common practice to cite the bibliographic
resources Friedberg (aka Eked Bet Sefarim) and
Vinograd. I've been asked by my colleague if
perhaps there is a move away from these
traditional sources to citing the now-online
Bibliography of the Hebrew Book. Is anyone citing
BHB? If so, what data is cited, and is BHB used
instead of or in addition to the other two
sources?<br>
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Thanks for your input, Jasmin<br>
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