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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shalom Jasmin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The record number (called the 'Book Number' at the top of the full display in the current English language interface, or 'mispar ma'arekhet' at the bottom of the full display in the Hebrew interface) is a 9 digit number with leading zeroes. In the CDI version it should be the same number, but 7 digits (minus 2 leading zeroes). This is the ID number of the record in the Aleph BHB database (MARC field 001) and should remain stable. If and when the data is moved to a different platform I expect these numbers will at least be maintained and indexed for reference purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elhanan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elhanan Adler <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Email: elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile tel.: 972-54-6829657<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel. (home) 972-2-6515977<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax (home): 972-2-6517129</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 21, 2012 7:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book records<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Elhanan, thanks for responding. I'm glad to hear the numbers are the same. Perhaps I've been looking in the wrong place. Please clarify what number you think would be best when giving a citation in a bib 510 4_ $c for Bibl. of Hebrew Book.<br><br>Jasmin<br><br><br><br>On 5/18/2012 11:12 AM, Elhanan Adler wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shalom all</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The numbers are the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elhanan</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elhanan Adler </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il">elhanana@savion.huji.ac.il</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile tel.: 972-54-6829657</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel. (home) 972-2-6515977</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax (home): 972-2-6517129</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Walfish<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book records</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Neither am I. I suspect not. But you’d have to ask someone at NLI.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Barry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br><b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 9:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book records</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Do record numbers in the NLI match the number in the BHB? I'm not sure.<br><br>Please pardon typos; sent from my iPod.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><br>On May 17, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Barry Walfish <<a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the NLI version there is a system number at the end of each record, which should be unique. I would cite BHB in addition to other sources such as Vinograd and Friedberg. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Barry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Judaica and Theology Specialist</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Collection Development Department and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>University of Toronto Library</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>130 St. George St.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Toronto, ON</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Canada M5S 1A5</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>phone: 416-946-3176 or 416-978-4319</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>fax: 416-978-1667 or 416-946-0635</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>e-mail: <a href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]">[mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi Galron<br><b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 6:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book records</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>I used BHB several times in the past and I believe I gave the record number (This was before the move to the new platform). Today I am not sure that this number is valid anymore.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Yossi</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><br clear=all>Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger<br>Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies Library<br>355A Thompson Memorial Library<br>The Ohio State University Libraries <br>1858 Neil Ave. Mall<br>Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA<br>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">galron.1@osu.edu</a> or <a href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com">jgalron@gmail.com</a><br>Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918<br>URL: <a href="http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/">http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/</a><br>Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:<br><a href="http://hebrewlit.notlong.com">http://hebrewlit.notlong.com</a><br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jasmin Nof <<a href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu">jnof@upenn.edu</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Hello dear colleagues,<br><br>I'm starting to catalog rare books and see that it is common practice to cite the bibliographic resources Friedberg (aka Eked Bet Sefarim) and Vinograd. I've been asked by my colleague if perhaps there is a move away from these traditional sources to citing the now-online Bibliography of the Hebrew Book. Is anyone citing BHB? If so, what data is cited, and is BHB used instead of or in addition to the other two sources?<br><br>Thanks for your input, Jasmin<br><br>-- <br>Jasmin Nof<br>Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<br>Cataloging& Metadata: Original Cataloging<br>Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center<br>3420 Walnut Street<br>Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206<br>T. <a href="tel:215-746-6397" target="_blank">215-746-6397</a><br>F. <a href="tel:215-573-9610" target="_blank">215-573-9610</a><br><a href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu">jnof@upenn.edu</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>_______________________________________________<br>Heb-naco mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Heb-naco mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco">https://lists.service.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>