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    Hi Elhanan, thanks for responding.  I'm glad to hear the numbers are
    the same.  Perhaps I've been looking in the wrong place.  Please
    clarify what number you think would be best when giving a citation
    in a bib 510 4_ $c for Bibl. of Hebrew Book.<br>
    <br>
    Jasmin<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 5/18/2012 11:12 AM, Elhanan Adler wrote:
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            numbers are the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces+elhanana=savion.huji.ac.il@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Walfish<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
                records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-CA">Neither am I. I suspect not. But you’d have to
            ask someone at NLI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-CA">Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasmin Nof<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 9:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
                records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Do record numbers in
              the NLI match the number in the BHB?  I'm not sure.<br>
              <br>
              Please pardon typos; sent from my iPod.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              On May 17, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Barry Walfish <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:barry.walfish@utoronto.ca">barry.walfish@utoronto.ca</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  lang="EN-CA">In the NLI version there is a system
                  number at the end of each record, which should be
                  unique. I would cite BHB in addition to other sources
                  such as Vinograd and Friedberg. </span><span
                  lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  lang="EN-CA"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                  lang="EN-CA"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi Galron<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2012 6:08 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] citations in rare book
                  records</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  lang="EN-CA">I used BHB several times in the past and
                  I believe I gave the record number (This was before
                  the move to the new platform). Today I am not sure
                  that this number is valid anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger<br>
                    Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies  Library<br>
                    355A Thompson Memorial Library<br>
                    The Ohio State University Libraries <br>
                    1858 Neil Ave. Mall<br>
                    Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA<br>
                    E-Mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">galron.1@osu.edu</a> 
                    or <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com">jgalron@gmail.com</a><br>
                    Tel.: (614) 292-3362,  Fax: (614)292-1918<br>
                    URL:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/">http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/</a><br>
                    Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://hebrewlit.notlong.com">http://hebrewlit.notlong.com</a><br>
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                      lang="EN-CA">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM,
                      Jasmin Nof <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:jnof@upenn.edu">jnof@upenn.edu</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      lang="EN-CA">Hello dear colleagues,<br>
                      <br>
                      I'm starting to catalog rare books and see that it
                      is common practice to cite the bibliographic
                      resources Friedberg (aka Eked Bet Sefarim) and
                      Vinograd.  I've been asked by my colleague if
                      perhaps there is a move away from these
                      traditional sources to citing the now-online
                      Bibliography of the Hebrew Book.  Is anyone citing
                      BHB?  If so, what data is cited, and is BHB used
                      instead of or in addition to the other two
                      sources?<br>
                      <br>
                      Thanks for your input, Jasmin<br>
                      <br>
                      -- <br>
                      Jasmin Nof<br>
                      Hebraica Cataloging Librarian<br>
                      Cataloging&  Metadata: Original Cataloging<br>
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