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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The Israeli National Cataloguing Committee will be meeting at
the end of February. I have forwarded your correspondence to the committee
members and have added the topic to our agenda. I will report back to this
list regarding our discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The present practice at the National Library is to give a general
uniform title. We do not specify the minhag or nusah, except in rare cases,
such as Shomronim or Karaim. If the minhag or nusah is mentioned on the title
page, we add it as a note. I agree with Aaron that "</span> <span
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we've also firmly believed that the cataloger cannot be expected to be a
scholar of Jewish liturgy." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Riny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Marina Goldsmith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Head of the Foreign Language Cataloguing Dept.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>National Library of Israel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>E.J. Safra Campus, Givat Ram, P.O.B. 39105<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jerusalem, 91390, Israel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>972-2-6585054<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
[mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Yossi
Galron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] Jewish Liturgies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>There are several NLI librarians on this list<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yossi<o:p></o:p></p>
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Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger<br>
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies Library<br>
355A Thompson Memorial Library<br>
The Ohio State University Libraries <br>
1858 Neil Ave. Mall<br>
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA<br>
E-Mail: <a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu" target="_blank">galron.1@osu.edu</a>
or <a href="mailto:jgalron@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgalron@gmail.com</a><br>
Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918<br>
URL: <a href="http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/"
target="_blank">http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/</a><br>
Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:<br>
<a href="http://hebrewlit.notlong.com" target="_blank">http://hebrewlit.notlong.com</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Marlene Schiffman <<a
href="mailto:schiffma@yu.edu">schiffma@yu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Someone
in our office suggested that we investigate what the Israeli librarians are
doing about these rites.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>MRS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target="_blank">heb-naco-bounces@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Taub, Aaron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu"
target="_blank">Heb-naco@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Jewish Liturgies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear
Heb-NACO Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please
note the correspondence and minutes below. Any feedback you can provide
on this matter would be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aaron
T.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=======================================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Minutes
of a Meeting Regarding Jewish Liturgies, Library of Congress, 1/31/12<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Present:
Joan Biella, Nahid Gerstein, Roger Kohn, Aaron Kuperman, Henry Lefkowitz, and
Aaron Taub<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
group convened to discuss the questions raised by Ella Ruderman in an e-mail to
Marlene Schiffman, both of Yeshiva University (1/24/12). First, Ms. Ruderman
questioned LC's use of the qualifier "Sephardic" for both both Nusah
Sefarad and for Minhag Sefarad (i.e. Sefaradim/Adot ha-Mizrah). She
proposed using the qualifier "Sephardic" for Minhag Sefarad and the
qualifier "Hasidic" for Nusah Sefarad.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>LC
practice has historically been based on the title page of the work and its
overall presentation. If the work used "Sefarad" or
"Sefaradim," we did not distinguish between Nusah Sefarad used by
Hasidim and Ashkenazim and the nusah/nushaot used by Jews from Portugal and
Spain and the Middle East. We've long known that Nusah Sefarad is not at
all the same as "Mizrahi, Adot ha-Mizrah, etc." However, we've
also firmly believed that the cataloger cannot be expected to be a scholar of Jewish
liturgy. Furthermore, the distinction between the words "nusah"
and "minhag" that is so clear to Ms. Ruderman has certainly not been
clear to catalogers. In fact, in various subject authority records
(Judaism $x Komarno rite, Judaism $x Lelov rite, and Judaism $x Frankfurt
rite), the terms "minhag" and "nusah" are both used as
references (Minhag Lelov, Nusah Lelov, etc.) for the heading.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also,
many non-Hasidic communities use Nusah Sefarad so using "Hasidic" as
a qualifier for Nusah Sefarad is misleading. The group discussed the
following possible solutions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For
Nusah Sefarad (used by Hasidim and other Ashkenazim), use the qualifier
"Sefarad." Discontinue use of "Sephardic" which is
ambiguous.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For
Nusah Sefaradim/Adot ha-Mizrah (communities [descended] from Portugal/Spain,
use: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>1.
"Sefaradim va-Adot ha-Mizrah) with references from "Sefaradim"
and "Adot ha-Mizrah" separately. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>OR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2.
Sefaradim with references from "Adot ha-Mizrah" and "Sefaradim
va-Adot ha-Mizrah"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>OR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.
Adot ha-Mizrah with references from "Sefaradim" and "Sefaradim
va-Adot ha-Mizrah"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Typically,
when the work in hand refers to liturgy from Spain/Middle East, the plural
"Sefaradim" and NOT simply "Sefarad" is given on the chief
source. It was also noted that individuals from Spain and Portugal
might object to their liturgy being grouped with Middle Eastern
liturgies. However, several participants were also concerned that there
not be too many headings as this will unnecessarily complicate matters.
The group further recognized that within "Sefaradim va-Adot
ha-Mizrah" there are numerous sub-groups already established: Aleppo,
Yemen, etc. Should those remain separate?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Another
complicating factor is that Nusah Ari is arguably the same or extremely similar
to Nusah Sefarad. Currently, Nusah Ari is separately established.
Should the qualifier "Ari" be a reference to the new heading for
Nusah Sefarad or kept separately??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A
solution was proposed at the meeting to discontinue the practice of using
qualifiers altogether, relying instead on the type of liturgical work (siddur,
haggadah, mahzor, etc.). The particulars, it was argued, could be brought
out in the publication information and the subject information. The
question was then raised: Is this solution too extreme? Is this a
disservice to our readers who rely on these distinctions particularly in an
index mode? Given that key words are not controlled, are these uniform
title qualifiers still needed to collocate similar works? Readers don't
want to plow through thousands of siddurim or have to construct elaborate
boolean searches when they are simply seeking a few Reconstructionist
titles. Also, we would still need to resolve the questions of labeling
(Sefarad, Sephardic, Mizrahi etc.) in the subject headings even if we
discontinue their usage in uniform titles.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In
her e-mail, Ms. Ruderman also raised the question of establishing the nushaot
for individual Hasidic groups (Bobov, Zanz, Skvira, etc.). One person
suggested that that practice be abolished altogether in favor of the more
general qualifer "Hasidic." However, in cases where only the
dynasty was mentioned, is it possible to expect all catalogers to recognize
this as a Hasidic dynasty and therefore apply the qualifier
"Hasidic"? Also, the works themselves go out of their way to
specify the nusah of their dynasty. Obviously, the differences, while
perhaps "minute" or even non-existent in terms of the liturgy, are
important enough for the publishers. Why should the cataloger go to a
broader level? And if we discontinue the practice of qualifying
individual Hasidic sub-groups, will we also discontinue individual
Sephardi/Mizrahi sub-groups (Aleppo, etc.)?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
discussion, while quite spirited, produced no consensus on an immediate
solution. All agreed, however, that wider discussion was needed.
The e-mail exchange and the minutes, once reviewed by the group, will be
forwarded to the AJL Cataloging Committee, Heb-NACO, colleagues at the National
Library of Israel, and others for feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Meeting
minutes taken by Aaron Taub, 1/31/12<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From: Marlene Schiffman <a href="mailto:[mailto:schiffma@yu.edu]"
target="_blank">[mailto:schiffma@yu.edu]</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:45 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To: Taub, Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Subject: FW: Liturgies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dear Aaron:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Ella, who is cataloging these materials, has made the following
observations. Perhaps you could address these.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>MRS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From: Ella Ruderman <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:35 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To: Marlene Schiffman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Subject: RE: Liturgies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Marlene, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for forwarding this to me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Now I am really confused. If they use Kinot (Sephardic) for Nusah Sefarad,
what would they use for Minhag Sefarad? And not just for Kinot, but in general?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Moreover, when a particular group of Hasidim is mentioned, LC has
established some uniform titles where the name of the group becomes the
qualifier (e.g. Siddur (Komarno) - ARN 2955905 or Mahzor (Bobov). \p Sukkot -
ARN 3743056).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It would be nice to have a clear and consistent across-the board policy that
would differentiate between the following.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Minhag Sefarad - as a general rite for Sefardim and Mizrahi Jews<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Individual (local) Sephardic and Mizrahi
rites (like Baghdadi, Syrian etc.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Nusah Sefarad - as a general Hasidic rite<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Individual Hasidic rites, e.g. Ari, Bobov,
Komarno etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The following system would accomplish that:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Using Siddur (Sephardic) or Mahzor (Sephardic), etc. - for general Minhag
Sefarad<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Siddur
(Yemen), or Mahzor (Aleppo), etc. - for individual versions of Minhag
Sefarad<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Siddur (Hasidic) -
for Nusah Sefarad in general<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> Siddur (Bobov), or
Mahzor (Skvira) etc. - for individual Hasidic groups.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>But that's just my opinion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Ella<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From: Marlene Schiffman <a href="mailto:[mailto:schiffma@yu.edu]"
target="_blank">[mailto:schiffma@yu.edu]</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:05 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To: Ella Ruderman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Subject: FW: Liturgies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From: Taub, Aaron <a href="mailto:[mailto:atau@loc.gov]" target="_blank">[mailto:atau@loc.gov]</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:46 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To: Marlene Schiffman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Cc: Biella, Joan; Gerstein, Nahid; Lefkowitz, Henry; 'Kearney'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Subject: RE: Liturgies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dear Marlene,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I see that Kinot (Sephardic) is already established (see NAR nr 91043472).
We have used this for Kinot that are Nusah Sefarad. Is a particular
Hasidic group mentioned on your work in hand? We have tended to use
Hasidic as a qualifier when a particular group or Hasidism in general is
mentioned.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It would be good to establish Mahzor (Hasidic) and then in, another
authority record, Mahzor (Hasidic). $p [Holiday]. The reference in the
latter record would be the actual title of the particular Mahzor in hand and
the 670 should clearly state the justification of the nusah.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From: Marlene Schiffman [<a href="mailto:schiffma@yu.edu" target="_blank">schiffma@yu.edu</a>]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:41 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To: Biella, Joan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Subject: Liturgies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>We are cataloging Kinot, the complete Tisha Be'Av service. nusah Sephard.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Can we use:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Siddur (Hasidic). $p Ninth of Av.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Can we also do:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Mahzor (Hasidic). $p [holiday]?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>MRS<o:p></o:p></p>
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