[Drupal] Changes to YouTube ToS
Gladden, Jon
gladden.9 at osu.edu
Wed May 26 10:14:33 EDT 2021
Thanks Richard, a good list of the shortcomings of MediaSite.
MediaSite can be really slow to use, uploading and processing. When I switched to telework at the beginning of the pandemic I had to switch ISPs and get faster broadband in order to get anything done with MediaSite. I use a combination of Otter.ai<https://otter.ai/> and manual caption editing to get the .srt caption files that MediaSite likes. They've more recently simplified the permission settings to bypass Shibboleth and let all view without logging in. A few years ago the settings to 'share to all' were really convoluted.
Maybe Ohio State will switch to a better video hosting and 'lecture capture' platform in the future. I've heard good things about Kaltura<https://corp.kaltura.com/education-video-platform/lecture-capture/> but I'm not sure how well it would do for public-facing videos in sites. TechSmith Relay/Knowmia<https://www.techsmith.com/techsmith-relay-features.html> is also a great 'lecture capture' platform but I haven't tried it for embedding public-facing videos in websites.
Jon
From: Hopkins-Lutz, Richard <hopkins-lutz.1 at osu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Changes to YouTube ToS
Oh, and they did not support oEmbed
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Subject: Re: Changes to YouTube ToS
When last we tried it a couple of years ago:
1. Slow to load, no VBR
2. Upload post processing is very slow.
3. Was forcing Shibboleth to view, even when set to allow everyone
4. Just plain didn't work in Safari
5. No auto-generated subtitles - they were evaluating some options like IBM Watson but my understanding is it was dropped for lack of budget/resources
Unless at least the first few of these were solved in the interim, it's not a solution.
We currently offer YouTube and Vimeo embedding.
[The Ohio State University]
Richard Hopkins-Lutz
Web Services Manager
College of Engineering Engineering Technology Services
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He/Him/His/Mr.
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Subject: RE: Changes to YouTube ToS
What are the disadvantages or embedding videos from OSU Mediasite?
Is it that you don't get variable bitrate streaming by default like YouTube? One time I noticed a video in a Canvas course was slow to load on a slower connection and had to request variable bitrate streaming be enabled from ODEE.
Jon
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Subject: [Drupal] Changes to YouTube ToS
Youtube is apparently changing its ToS to allow it to monetize non-partner videos. From email:
YouTube has the right to monetize all content on the platform and ads may appear on videos from channels not in the YouTube Partner Program.
This could mean embedded videos start showing ads. Since OSU Mediasite isn't useful for embedding video, any thoughts?
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College of Engineering Engineering Technology Services
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